Dream Science iMap install & First impressions

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  • #106133
    9designs
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    I spent a long time contemplating what route to take, with Mountune normally being my preferred option, M400 was my intention.  Mixed comments and what seems the mandatory fitting of all the hardware, Exhaust/CAT and cooler held me back.   Trying to keep the balance between modified and warranty friendly.  My current fitted hardware probably takes that to the limit.  Full FPM375 kit, but with added hard pipe and hoses.

    Now the 375 I think is a great improvement, the proverbial “no brainer”,  fills in the much needed mid band that felt asthmatic and bit lifeless as standard.   It does seem to fall away at the higher revs.  Basically you make a good initial progress then the VAG cars just pull away…

    While I do actually have a MT Intercooler and HJS 200 cell sports cat ready to fit, I was planning on waiting till warranty ends, plus not so sure how many more mods my insurance company will tolerate.

    The DS maps have good reviews and seem more flexible in the cars state of tune.  Maybe it’s down to the marketing, or could be technical. No idea which, but I didn’t need to fit all the hardware yet.

    I bought the controller from a fellow owner, advertised with 4 lives remain. £310 delivered.

    All in excellent condition.  I started by plugging it into the laptop, to check it was up to date.  It did want several updates, one that scrolled through was new firmware.  All updated without a problem.   Checking back through devise info it now reported 5 lives remaining – unmarried.  Result it’s reset itself to as new.

    Always nervous about flashing ECU’s for the first time.  Especially as my car hasn’t had the BCM update done as the 375 was done first and there is a known issue with it clashing and wiping it off on earlier cars and is PITA to get it back on so my dealer told me.

    I had charged the battery overnight and put the Ghost in valet mode.

    Plugged in and started the pairing process, which after some flashing lights and messages popping up it completed. A few instructs for key off key on, then a prompt that further updates/files were required, use Wi-Fi?   Being in range of my router I gave it access to the network.  After the next updates I then could see the map options, no messing straight to Ultimate2+

    All updated smoothly, while in the menu I also opted to up the idle RPM from 750 to 800. Something I always thought was a bit low, sitting with either foot on brake or a/c on drags the rpm rather low.  With a roll restrictor it was a little more noticeable, so hopefully this will compensate.

    All fired up as normal, it was late, dark and cold, so first test drive was a little tentative.  Allowing it to warm up gently, it drove pretty much as normal.  Then I gave a bit of prod, pulled strong, may be a little stronger, then another go, a bit more, pulled well, then Woowww here she goes, now I got the kick and extra wallop of torque/power at around 4K onwards,  like a second stage, whereas 375 just bleeds away this steps up for more.

    Tried out a few B roads, car felt good,  pulling strong, I was being smooth and progressive with the throttle, not needing high revs, now with the PDC also off no fighting the wheel, just needed a fingertip touch to stroke it along.

    Then second drive in the morning, damp in places, few roundabouts this time and more open roads.  Yeah it kicks in strong as the revs rise. Sometimes felt a small moment of pull on the wheel, feels just like good old fashioned torque steer, but within a fraction of second felt the LSD neutralise it and it then pulls hard true and straight.

    No idea what the improvement would be against the clock, but the feeling is it’s a lot more torque through a much wider range, with big chunk of upper end performance.

    Nice that all the previous mods are now being made more effective.  Just an awesome car that’s got better and better.



    Magnetic Grey with shells, sunroof, forged wheels, calipers, city..etc

    FPM375, + DS iMap U2+, Full MT Blue charge pipe kit, Quaife LSD, MT Springs, DSC Suspension Control Unit, MT- Short shift, PTU Brace and Roll Restrictor – Oil Plate, LED Sequential rear lights, Shadow Chrome wheels.  HJS200 cell cat and MT Cooler to be fitted.

    UK seller for DSC Active suspension. 

    DSC Modules In stock, next day dispatch.

    TracTive Damper kits  – SOLD OUT !  Reservations taken    

    email to:-  9designstechserv@gmail.com 

        

    #106137
    faber
    faber
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    France

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    Merci pour ton ressenti.

    #106139

    smokingkills
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    I found the cold running cycles poor with DS imap & not as refined as the stock map.  Once oil hits 75c it smooths out but annoying hesitation on light throttle until then.

    #106140

    peters
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    Dam you sir !!!! 🙂

    Do i go Dreamscience or M380………….

     

     

     



    Suzuki swift 1.6 vvt run about, more fun  and dealer 100x better !

     

    #106141
    9designs
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    @ smokingkills……   What map did you run?

    I did think the idle smoothness was perhaps not quite as good, at any temperature. Not noticed any hesitation or cold running issues though. A subtly easily outweighed by the gains I would say.    I run a roll restrictor so it’s more probably more noticeable.

    What will be interesting is to see is how much fuel it uses.



    Magnetic Grey with shells, sunroof, forged wheels, calipers, city..etc

    FPM375, + DS iMap U2+, Full MT Blue charge pipe kit, Quaife LSD, MT Springs, DSC Suspension Control Unit, MT- Short shift, PTU Brace and Roll Restrictor – Oil Plate, LED Sequential rear lights, Shadow Chrome wheels.  HJS200 cell cat and MT Cooler to be fitted.

    UK seller for DSC Active suspension. 

    DSC Modules In stock, next day dispatch.

    TracTive Damper kits  – SOLD OUT !  Reservations taken    

    email to:-  9designstechserv@gmail.com 

        

    #106145

    smokingkills
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    UK - England

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    @9d

    I have tried Ultima, 2 &2+ map (3 maps).

    My daily commute is only 6 miles each way so I have returned to stock.

    #106182
    9designs
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    6 Miles …..  never gets hot I guess, not good for any engine….   I’d drive the long way around 😉



    Magnetic Grey with shells, sunroof, forged wheels, calipers, city..etc

    FPM375, + DS iMap U2+, Full MT Blue charge pipe kit, Quaife LSD, MT Springs, DSC Suspension Control Unit, MT- Short shift, PTU Brace and Roll Restrictor – Oil Plate, LED Sequential rear lights, Shadow Chrome wheels.  HJS200 cell cat and MT Cooler to be fitted.

    UK seller for DSC Active suspension. 

    DSC Modules In stock, next day dispatch.

    TracTive Damper kits  – SOLD OUT !  Reservations taken    

    email to:-  9designstechserv@gmail.com 

        

    #106249

    Dreamscience Flash
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    UK - England

    Posts: 5

    Thank you for the review, it’s a great read.

    For the queries around cold running it’s in the maps to protect the hardware until temperatures have reached a desired threshold, this may be annoying to some but  it’s essential in ensuring you don’t risk damaging your engine.
    Once warmed up, and after a couple of Wide Open Throttle pulls the map will offer its full potential.

    Dreamscience Big Christmas Sale 2018

    Enjoy

    TeamDS

     

    #106257

    peters
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    United Kingdom

    Posts: 61

    @ dreamscience

     

    Got any dyno charts to see  for each of the maps?



    Suzuki swift 1.6 vvt run about, more fun  and dealer 100x better !

     

    #106373
    white-rs2
    white-rs2
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    UK - England

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    @9designs

    Good read tempted for more power but resisting the dark side until next year as power corrupts ………………….hahahaaaaaa



    RS Edition (RED), Sunroof, Door Guards.

    Tractive Suspension & DSC controller. 

    #106374
    9designs
    9designs
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    @white-rs2   I think I can talk you around 😉

    Plus you already have more hardware done than me, so will get a bigger bang for your loose change 😀



    Magnetic Grey with shells, sunroof, forged wheels, calipers, city..etc

    FPM375, + DS iMap U2+, Full MT Blue charge pipe kit, Quaife LSD, MT Springs, DSC Suspension Control Unit, MT- Short shift, PTU Brace and Roll Restrictor – Oil Plate, LED Sequential rear lights, Shadow Chrome wheels.  HJS200 cell cat and MT Cooler to be fitted.

    UK seller for DSC Active suspension. 

    DSC Modules In stock, next day dispatch.

    TracTive Damper kits  – SOLD OUT !  Reservations taken    

    email to:-  9designstechserv@gmail.com 

        

    #106377
    Hammy
    Hammy
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    UK - Scotland

    Posts: 417

    <p style=”padding-left: 30px;”>Glad to see more folk using this. its amazing for the price.</p>
     

    First two things to do as a newbie MK3 rs owner

    Dreamscienc IMAP

    And

    A set of spacers

     

    So much bang for your buck.

     

    IMAP plenty of mid torque that pins you in your seat. And spacers to give you more track which gives you way more bite in the corners.

     

    👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻



    • Magnetic, Forge wheels, Edge Protectors , Lux Pack & Recaro Shell Seats
    • Dreamscience Imap Ultimate 2  
    • Dmb Gel Badges Nitrous Blue
    • Rallyflapz Kaylan Black 
    • Team Heko Wind defectors Dark 
    • Milltek Decat/Downpipe
    • Airtec SSC Black
    • Airtec Stage 2 Air Intake Black & Nitrous Blue 
    • Airtec Rear Diffuser Black 
    • ST suspension 12.5mm spacers
    • Forge recirculating valve
    • yellow fog lights 
    #106378
    9designs
    9designs
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    UK - England

    Posts: 1058

    Let me correct that for you 😉

    First three things to do as a newbie MK3 rs owner

    DS iMap

    DSC  Suspension Controller

    MT Springs.



    Magnetic Grey with shells, sunroof, forged wheels, calipers, city..etc

    FPM375, + DS iMap U2+, Full MT Blue charge pipe kit, Quaife LSD, MT Springs, DSC Suspension Control Unit, MT- Short shift, PTU Brace and Roll Restrictor – Oil Plate, LED Sequential rear lights, Shadow Chrome wheels.  HJS200 cell cat and MT Cooler to be fitted.

    UK seller for DSC Active suspension. 

    DSC Modules In stock, next day dispatch.

    TracTive Damper kits  – SOLD OUT !  Reservations taken    

    email to:-  9designstechserv@gmail.com 

        

    #106379
    Hammy
    Hammy
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    UK - Scotland

    Posts: 417

    Sales pitch like your thinking 😉👍🏻



    • Magnetic, Forge wheels, Edge Protectors , Lux Pack & Recaro Shell Seats
    • Dreamscience Imap Ultimate 2  
    • Dmb Gel Badges Nitrous Blue
    • Rallyflapz Kaylan Black 
    • Team Heko Wind defectors Dark 
    • Milltek Decat/Downpipe
    • Airtec SSC Black
    • Airtec Stage 2 Air Intake Black & Nitrous Blue 
    • Airtec Rear Diffuser Black 
    • ST suspension 12.5mm spacers
    • Forge recirculating valve
    • yellow fog lights 
    #106415
    craigyp
    craigyp
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    UK - England

    Posts: 58

    I also thought the cold start on ds map was very hesitant and the car felt very jerky.

    Once warmed up it was fine.

    I’ve since moved on to Litchfield.  No other reason than I wanted to try different maps and the use of the cobb unit.

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