*Engine Failure – possible cause*
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April 11, 2017 at 2:36 PM #53703
Ive heard the ‘first fill’ oil in the engine from new has a dye in it that shows up under UV light ? The engine ‘failures’ are not oil or lubrication related anyway, so its not an oil issue its water loss/headgasket failure/ block failure, down to design or manufacturing. In any case, the engine does not benefit from an oil and filter change before the scheduled first 12500m service, it achieves nothing, just a waste of money and oil.
No nothing.
No Mods. No rockers. Just a chunky knob, thats now been replaced by an RS knob innit.
No tackiness.
Std as Ford intended, but with a space saver wheel and jack and nuts and wheel brace. oh.. and flaps, a man has got to have flaps.
Innit?
April 11, 2017 at 3:00 PM #53706If anyone changed the oil and the head/block went, Ford would be rubbing their hands (special dye?). You don’t need an oil change, this isn’t the 1940’s.
April 11, 2017 at 3:10 PM #53708Sorry I’ll sign off now
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April 11, 2017 at 3:15 PM #53709oh Bob… please dont go !!…
No nothing.
No Mods. No rockers. Just a chunky knob, thats now been replaced by an RS knob innit.
No tackiness.
Std as Ford intended, but with a space saver wheel and jack and nuts and wheel brace. oh.. and flaps, a man has got to have flaps.
Innit?
April 11, 2017 at 3:22 PM #53710
That’s not me. I googled quizzical.
April 11, 2017 at 4:24 PM #53719Guys, by me having a service check at 1500 miles and getting the garage to check all the seals resulted in the mechanic finding oil spots, I wondered why the check was taking so long, the mechanic wasn’t 100% sure where they from so he took some photographs and said that they (the garage) would contact Fords and see what they had to say and they’ll contact me with what they found. A couple of days later I had a phone call to say could I take my car back to the garage for further investigation and there will be an engineer from Fords to examine what the mechanic had found. Although I didn’t notice any oil loss it turned out to be the Turbo oil seal was leaking, the engineer from Fords agreed it was faulty, but they can not replace the seal on it’s own the hole unit will have to be replaced that ment the Turbo too, all under warranty.
So it was left with the garage ordering a new Turbo unit and me not using my car until the parts arrived. I had the call to say the parts where in and could I take my car back, oh and they’ll need it for three days, also the Ford engineer would be there to take away the old unit for further investigations. The engineer commented that whilst it was not a common problem it could have been serious if not found early.
The car is running perfectly, and when I’ve done another 500 mile take it back for a warranty check. Due to some family issues and holidays I’ve not quite put on the 500 miles, in fact I’m 61 miles short. But I’ll take it back soon.
So in essence do have a service check at 1500 miles ?
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April 11, 2017 at 7:34 PM #53746Guys (and girls) it’s not something I made up….. I wanted an oil change , just to be sure , and I have to pay for it so it’s not money related.
appearently the additive in the oil has to build up a coating in the engine .
other engines have had the same in the past. It’s an aluminium block and no sleeves. Don’t know how what or why it would cause an engine failure or if they have anything to do with it .
i was just wondering
April 21, 2017 at 11:15 PM #54744is the engine/ car under warranty or do you have to pay for an engine install?
April 22, 2017 at 6:47 AM #54752@ Jack Roberts. its under warranty. No relation to Steve Roberts ??
No nothing.
No Mods. No rockers. Just a chunky knob, thats now been replaced by an RS knob innit.
No tackiness.
Std as Ford intended, but with a space saver wheel and jack and nuts and wheel brace. oh.. and flaps, a man has got to have flaps.
Innit?
May 15, 2017 at 10:14 AM #57155i am glad that there is a general opinion that there is no requirement for a oil change other than at the main service interval – i was considering getting a fresh oil change after hearing various comments however the general opinion seem s to be at 12500 (not knocking anyone who wants to do interim oil changes if they feel they want to)
will be keeping an eye on the coolant level though
As a matter of interest, would the new Focus use any oil through natural driving or should it be that it never uses oil between services (My Mk 2 FRS never used a drop between services)
cheeRS
May 15, 2017 at 12:16 PM #57168@ graham john, I really think oil consumption is down to how its driven and maybe to a very small degree how hard the car was driven for the first couple of hundred miles maybe. My oil at 1000 miles is still clean and level has not dropped at all, nor has coolant. never gave it more than 3500 rpm for first 400 miles, then 4500 to 800 miles and never full throttle until now. My oil will just be getting changed yearly as Ford say.
No nothing.
No Mods. No rockers. Just a chunky knob, thats now been replaced by an RS knob innit.
No tackiness.
Std as Ford intended, but with a space saver wheel and jack and nuts and wheel brace. oh.. and flaps, a man has got to have flaps.
Innit?
May 15, 2017 at 12:52 PM #57171Mike, I pretty much did the same. not over 3K for 800 miles but varied speed and revs even on dual carriageways. horrible to drive like this and rubbish fuel economy (never drove on the shift up number indicator, kept the revs a tad higher) . I did give it full throttle now and then up to 3000 RPM but when oil was fully hot. After 600 miles I crept up the revs bit by bit up to 1000 miles, so at 1000 miles I was probably up to 5,500 rpm. I never go over 3000RPM until oil temp is right up there, and only then I give it full beans. My oil level never dropped over 1400 miles and its clear as a bell. just had the oil changed.
I think the key is to not use excessive revs till the oil temp if fully hot, (can take quite a few miles). Dont use excessive revs on a new engine for the first few hundred miles, vary revs and dont labour engine. I may be right or wrong but decided on this approach after reading lots of bedding in tips, seemed to have worked for me.
May 15, 2017 at 12:53 PM #57172sorry typo should be after 800 miles crept the revs up, not 600.
June 11, 2017 at 6:47 PM #59420Do we know how many engines failures were registered and at white mileage? I own one of the first RS deliveries and wanted to upgrade to M380 kit. But since this voids warranty, I really don’t want to have engine failure. I’ve done 9000miles.
June 12, 2017 at 10:41 AM #59452Hi Everyone
Just been reading through all of this as I have had a similar issue.
I got my RS at the end of October 2016 it was running perfectly and had an oil change at 10000 miles. Since getting it back it started pouring out thick white smoke and sounding rough.
I took my car back into ford on the 3rd of may 2017, 6 days later they said that ford have given the go ahead to provide a new engine.
The engine has arrived but they are now waiting for the mounting bolts which are on back order to the factory and are estimated to arrive around the 16th of July!!
(I’ve tried to upload some pictures and videos but it won’t let me)
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