The BMW M140i is dead(ish), long live the M135i

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  • #128350
    bumble-b
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    Or maybe not. Watching that Markcup video thing prompted me to post this. I know how you gays (bloody predictive text I meant guys) love BMWs and really wish you had one so just a quick Youthing to keep you happy. Good spec, right price, looks crap but would photograph well taking up two parking places. Think I might grow a beard and have my arm tattooed, but there again I’ll just hit it with a club hammer should give about the same result. Weather looks good for the weekend so enjoy.



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    #128358
    71-bda
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    this bloody buzzword all reviewers keep banding around…. “ARCHITECTURE”  we never had that in the 70s or 80s or 90s or noughties, is it another millenial naff speak thing?



    No nothing.

    No Mods. No rockers. Just a chunky knob.

    No tackiness.

    Std as Ford intended, but with a space saver wheel and jack and nuts and wheel brace. oh.. and flaps, a man has got to have flaps.

    Innit?

     

    #128441

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    Impressive, but the ST price is a complete piss take making this look better than it is???

    Still can’t stand beamers but the M140 was an attractive option for its rear wheel drive, 6 straight pots in a very small car combo.

    I understand that they wont be releasing a true M1 /1M variant so this will be as good as it gets. I do wonder how far tuners will be able to take the new 4 pot without forging. It wont be in the 500’s like the 6 pot I’ll bet.

    #128458
    white-rs2
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    BMW M140 3ltr and giving only 112bhp per ltr. The Focus RS 152bhp per ltr. So how much would it cost to tune the M140 if it started with 456bhp then add 100bhp tune to that I guess more than £700.

    Tuning today is no more costly than 25 years ago

    So in 1999 a Cosworth YB 2ltr tune Stage2 –  T34/35 Turbo, a set of Green Injectors, a 3 Bar MAP, a new ECU Map and fitting £3100 in today’s money £5.5k  pretty much as today’s prices but on a 2ltr YB you’d get 350bhp. 100bhp less than our Focus RS

    Its always been expensive to mod a car after the initial ECU mapping is done.



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    #128465

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    What I meant was the 6 pot bmw can take well over 500 hp without spending much (under £2k I believe) whereas the 4 pot bmw will need much more spending on it and will probably need forging after say 415hp same as our cars.

    However, if you can achieve 0 to 60 in 4.8 with only just over 300hp in the new 1 series, it may be that you can get it to under 4 seconds (in order to compete with A45s) to 60 with just 400hp which will only be a couple of £k’s.

    Will be interesting to see and I may go and try one. I’ll be looking for a new daily next year so it will be on my list of test drives.

     

     

    #128468
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    It seems the vw Audi and bmw can hit good.figures with minimal outlay and without the need for forging , the mk3 rs gets very expensive …….I was warned this before I bought one , trouble is  the rs looks and drives so good 😁

    #128497
    white-rs2
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    I thought all 3 Audi RS, VW 400R & Mercedes AMG are forged from the factory. How much are the German three each to Purchase ££££

    The Focus is Forged from the factory it has a very good crank, but it is very heavy in standard form, but has budget rods and pistons. How much was the Focus £££

    Whats the cost difference in a Loaded Focus RS and a Loaded Audi RS3 or any of the three. I bet your looking a nearer £20k difference.

    The Focus RS was an Engineers car built by Accountants.



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    #128504
    9designs
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    The Focus RS was an Engineers car managed by Accountants…..

    Corrected it for you 😉



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    #128507
    71-bda
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    sod talking about beemers ! this is far more interesting !!..



    No nothing.

    No Mods. No rockers. Just a chunky knob.

    No tackiness.

    Std as Ford intended, but with a space saver wheel and jack and nuts and wheel brace. oh.. and flaps, a man has got to have flaps.

    Innit?

     

    #128511
    robroy
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    @white-rs2

    I get what your saying, but the value of all those cars has dropped significantly so roughly the same price as an rs on a 2016 plate like mine

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    white-rs2
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    The used car price is irrelevant it just shows that the three Germans depreciate faster than a lead weight dropped in water.

    Its the new car price that’s important as that’s what the manufacturers get their profit from.

    I’m betting theirs way more profit on a £56k car than a £36k car. Hence why the German stuff can have better standard components and build from their.

    If you Spend £20k modding your RS to the same price as the Germans and you’d have a far superior motor over the German 3

    You’d have A 520bhp car and £4K change.



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    Standard as Ford Should of Intended.

    #129107
    bumble-b
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    Local BMW dealer invited me to their launch of the M135i in late September. They’ve got it for the weekend so I’ve booked a test drive. It would be rude not to! The configurator is now on the web so you can build your dream M135i. Starts at £37,230 and by the time I’d selected all my options came out at £44,840 which is near enough the price I paid for my fully loaded Mercedes A35. Be warned if you select M sport options some previous options you’ve selected may deselect! A loaded M sport version came out at £42,290. Ignore “Trim” and “Models” and start at “Colours”. Go on, you know you want to!!

    https://configure.bmw.co.uk/en_GB/configure/F40/1SMP/FPDFM



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    #129108
    71-bda
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    er, but NO, No  I don’t !!



    No nothing.

    No Mods. No rockers. Just a chunky knob.

    No tackiness.

    Std as Ford intended, but with a space saver wheel and jack and nuts and wheel brace. oh.. and flaps, a man has got to have flaps.

    Innit?

     

    #129116
    andy thornton
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    I think i,ll stick with the Focus,Get more jealous looks and frowns from BMW owners than anyone else on the roads,Especially when there behind which is most of the time.



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    #129120
    71-bda
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    ^ LIKE !! ^



    No nothing.

    No Mods. No rockers. Just a chunky knob.

    No tackiness.

    Std as Ford intended, but with a space saver wheel and jack and nuts and wheel brace. oh.. and flaps, a man has got to have flaps.

    Innit?

     

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