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  • #2290

    ianc
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    What about the American cars? Do they have to run on 95ron and below ?

    #2353

    howsey
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    Exxon Supreme and Mobil Super+ Unleaded Octane 91-93. Their best is worse than our average, that’s why it’s cheap/cheaper. I’ll be happy using 95 for three years.

    #2355

    cs400
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    I think you’ll find it is calculated a different way in America, which means their 95 is equivalent to our 99!

    I just can’t find the link at the moment.

    Also you won’t get full performance from the car unless you use 98 or above. You also get better MPG with better fuel, so the price difference doesn’t come to much.

    I would prefer better performance personally 🙂

    #2357

    howsey
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    I’ll just put 95 in. I’ll be fine.

    #4067

    Turbo
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    CostCo have a new fuel station at their depot in Lakeside Essex and the 99 octane is cheaper there than supermarket 95 octane locally.

    You do need a CostCo membership card and can only pay with a debit card or American Express.

    #4114

    71-bda
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    UK - England

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    Howsey, with 95 octane instead of 98 or 99 etc you will be down on power and closer to pinking in certain situations. Im definitely going for high test !



    No nothing.

    No Mods. No rockers. Just a chunky knob, thats now been replaced by an RS knob innit.

    No tackiness.

    Std as Ford intended, but with a space saver wheel and jack and nuts and wheel brace. oh.. and flaps, a man has got to have flaps.

    Innit?

     

    #15553

    howsey
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    I’ll take your word for it, Mike. I’ll go with 99………five months later.

    #15574

    chris250
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    There are 2 tests for the AKI (anti-knock index) of fuel, RON and MON.

     

    Here in the UK we use the RON rating but in america they add the results of the RON and MON tests then divide it by 2.

     

    I’m in the middle of testing the effect of the different super unleaded fuels on a tuned MK3 and I can safely say already it makes a massive difference which fuel you choose to run on the power these cars develop.

    #113876

    18stealth
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    UK - England

    Posts: 308

    It’s all well and good looking at the performance, but the critical thing here is damage, cracks between valves, etc.  Only time will tell with this, and most of the vehicles in “this class” attract those who always look for more, and perhaps it is those that should look into the better quality fuels.

    The Ethanol reduces the pre-ignition point, but produces less energy.  I have read that Tesco 99 momentum produces more power than V-power due to the Ethanol content.

    It really needs to be looked into more.  I would say that you should be able to achieve the 347Hp / 350 Ps on a well maintained (or even correctly maintained) stock setup.

    Does anybody know if / how the RS detects pre-ignition?

    #113892

    71-bda
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    stealth, it has a knock sensor, only one I believe, not one for each cyl.



    No nothing.

    No Mods. No rockers. Just a chunky knob, thats now been replaced by an RS knob innit.

    No tackiness.

    Std as Ford intended, but with a space saver wheel and jack and nuts and wheel brace. oh.. and flaps, a man has got to have flaps.

    Innit?

     

    #113928

    18stealth
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    UK - England

    Posts: 308

    Thanks for the update, bear that in mind.  I’d love to see rolling road comparisons.

    #113997

    coastliner
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    I have seen some rolling road comparisons not on a high performance car so I am unsure what help the results would be with an RS. The car was I believe a Renault Clio and done on from memory The Tonight programme. So the car developed somewhere in the region of 80bhp and the figures were similar on both super unleaded and normal fuel. Like I have said what that means on our cars may not be relevant, but interesting never the less.



    Coastliner

    #113998

    coastliner
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    UK - England

    Posts: 4631

    Found this 5th gear with Vicky Butler Henderson.

     



    Coastliner

    #114000

    coastliner
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    UK - England

    Posts: 4631

    Found the first comparison, I will let you all draw your own conclusions.

     



    Coastliner

    #114003

    brembo
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    UK - Scotland

    Posts: 1730

    @18stealth and @71-bda

    The RS has 2 x Knock Sensors and can listen to each Cylinder individually!!

    Cheers, Marc.



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