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    DaveRS3
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    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7270773/Cost-HS2-soar-30bn-business-leaders-urge-Boris-Johnson-press-ahead-project.html

    Just don’t understand this project. We are on the cusp of fully automated cars driving themselves around. I predict well within 20 years you will be able to open an app, book a car, it will turn up within 5 – 10 mins and go anywhere in the country and you wont even need a licence or sobriety. The railways will be ripped up for high speed (say 120mph) automated car roads which electrify the cars on them travelling at speed 2 inches away from each other. This will virtually remove all traffic jams on Motorways except in city centres.

    Even a car travelling across country at 120mph door to door will probably get any occupant to their destination quicker than HS2.

    This technology is already available and could work it just needs probably no more investment than HS2 to make it happen and when it does, trains will be as useful as the penny farthing and HS2 a half empty £80Billion MP’s plaything.

    Mental projact which lacks vision IMO!.

    #125495

    71-bda
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    Dave, its so Mr Shah from up north can visit his friends in London at their local mosque  20 minutes earlier than normal, and Mr Mohhamhad from London can visit his family up north and see them 20 minutes earlier too. there is absolutely no justification for this vanity project. During the day the trains at present all run practically empty anyway!! if they are full in the rush hours, just add a few extra carriages or put an extra train on the service, its not hard is it !!



    No nothing.

    No Mods. No rockers. Just a chunky knob, thats now been replaced by an RS knob innit.

    No tackiness.

    Std as Ford intended, but with a space saver wheel and jack and nuts and wheel brace. oh.. and flaps, a man has got to have flaps.

    Innit?

     

    #125646

    Andrew
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    It’s a method of shovelling your money into the pockets of those charged with saying ‘…the cost has gone up by another £20billion (again)…  kerching’

    #126094

    DaveRS3
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    Was watching the trains go by when at Squires at the weekend. 1 train with just 2 carriages once every hour.

    What a waste of space railways are!.

    Remove the iron and lay down some sweet tarmac I say!.

    #126117

    71-bda
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    UK - England

    Posts: 8750

    exactly Dave, and call them “Autobahns” with no speed limits !!  mmm



    No nothing.

    No Mods. No rockers. Just a chunky knob, thats now been replaced by an RS knob innit.

    No tackiness.

    Std as Ford intended, but with a space saver wheel and jack and nuts and wheel brace. oh.. and flaps, a man has got to have flaps.

    Innit?

     

    #126120

    Jam Jar
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    France

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    Railways are great for moving goods, removing all those HGVs off the roads would be bliss.

    Railways would be good for people too if they were reliable, capacity matched demand and easy to get to/from the stations.  HS2 if is just to reduce the journey time rather than increase capacity is plain crazy and just another stealth tax.

    I’m not so sure about fully self-driving cars within 20 years.  It’s really not that easy to make them cope with all eventualities they might encounter, though it would be hugely easier if they didn’t have human drivers to contend with.  But I think the biggest issue for self-driving vehicles is that most of the vehicle manufacturers must surely go bust: hardly anyone need own a car, everyone would just be Ubering themselves everywhere, thus the number of vehicles in issue would plunge by 10x at least!

    #126122

    coastliner
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    I cannot for the life of me understand why 20 mins saved between North and London is worth the investment on this project, what happens in the ever increasing summer temperatures when they have to reduce the speed due to rail expansion. Its a waste of money project aimed at lining some multinational company coffers. And they seem intent to push the increase of Heathrow by way of planning another runway when air travel pollutes the environment. Maybe they need to go electric in the air like they are pushing on the road.



    Coastliner

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