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  • #178089

    bobcat
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    Snow, Traffic Jams, Taxes and Electric Cars

    Can we show a little forethought and practicality? Please?

    Electric cars do not use gas so they pay no gas tax.  The gas tax pays for maintenance of our transportation infrastructure.  Has anyone thought about it?

    If all cars were electric . . . and were caught up in a three hour traffic jam . . . dead batteries! Then what?

    Not to mention, that there is virtually no heating in an electric vehicle.

    And if you get stuck on the road all night, no battery, no heating, no windshield wipers, no radio, no GPS (all these drain the battery) !!!

    You can try calling 911 to bring women and children to safety!

    But they cannot come to help you since all roads are blocked and the socialist green weenies will probably require all police cars to be electric also (if we still have police departments then)!!!

    And when the roads become unblocked no one can move! Their batteries are dead and they cannot move.

    How do you charge the thousands of cars in the traffic jam? (That is a business I think I’d like to look into. Drones to deliver heavy batteries and someone to remove and install.)

    Same problem during summer vacation departures with miles of traffic jams.

    There is virtually NO air conditioning in an electric vehicle. It would drain your battery quickly. This will make cars run out of “fuel” and create never ending traffic jams, not to mention high tempers.

    No socialist bent reporter talks about this of course!

    You can’t even call in horses to rescue you. The Socialists are against horses and cows who defecate.

    Wouldn’t it be easier to just get rid of the socialist politicians who are trying to help China’s economy?

     



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    #178097

    1234enough
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    Morning bobcat.

    Nice rant there, agree with you.

    Without change there is stagnation,  do nothing and the resources simply run out.

    I have said for a long while, we will become a 3rd world nation, we produce near nothing, we import near on everything we use, we are in massive debt to the likes of china.

    Back on car chat, miserable day here, no leisurely drive out for me in my western capitalist excess vehicle today ☹

    #178098

    bobcat
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    Thanks @1234enough, can’t say were I’m am but it’s hoy dry and sunny 😎 to give you some idea last Friday (13th) it was 38 degrees Saturday 40 degrees and Sunday a cool 45 degrees 🥵🥵🥵 spotted a NB and a white Mk3 RS too 😸 Just hope that the scientists and chemical engineers can get synthetic fuel for cars soon so we have a choice electric or synthetic 👍



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    #178293

    Andrew
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    I’m not sure sure how you can blame the socialists on the current direction of travel when the neoliberals have been in charge for the last 11 years????

    but I agree with you that the direction of travel is questionable.  Maybe hydrogen is the way to go….

     

    #178295

    Pauly Paul
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    It’s like the line from ghostbusters, we haven’t really had a chance to test these , after all we are all wearing a nuclear reactor on our backs , one spark from a hydrogen car and Hindenburg comes to mind , but Andrew I do agree it’s the cleanest solution at the moment we have  take care. 👍👍👍

    #178296

    petey2468
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    @bobcat

    All very good points, most of which will have been white washed by the socialist left, and i say that as proud working class man. If the future is electric then i will stick with the past, me and my petrol car playing Iron Maiden as load as fook, annoying the sensible folk. I don’t want a Jonny Polar Bear anyway, vicious little bastards.

    #179492

    DaveRS3
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    Latest events of cables being damaged under the channel from France causing price hikes and the real potential for Russia or the EU to stop some of our coal and gas supply should be an eye opener to our government. They must make Britain energy independant and forget that renewable bull shit with so many flaws. We should have built more nuclear power capacity and fracked gas a long time ago. There is also an abundance of oil around the UK – fuck Greta and the stinky rebellion and their bullshit science, all just another form of control.

    A stupid ill thought or perhaps tyrannical agreement to go electric only by 2030 that will result in energy price hikes and shortages after which you will need to earn or buy a lot of good citizen reward points to get the energy no doubt.

    I’ll keep a fuel car for as long as possible even though I really do like my new Skoda Enyaq as a daily. It’s super smooth, quiet comfy and effortless to drive especially up and down hills in Yorkshire where I am.

     

     

     

    #179519

    frenk
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    @bobcat: Good philosophical topic. Here in Switzerland the polemics and politics are getting high, too. The last referendum about a CO2-law was devastatingly rejected by the voters. A fee on every flight ticket, 12 cents more on the litre fuel and an energy funds was simply too much to swallow for Johnny Taxpayer. However, we still have no clue how we want to generate all that electric power once the nuclear stations will all be shut down by 2035. There is no serious wind power and photovoltaic installations on every roof top would take another 35 years to realise at the current pace.

    There are plenty of energy transformation methods as alternatives: synthetic fluids, lithium-oxygen batteries, sodium-ion batteries, ammonium, compressed hydrogen, hydrogen fuel cell and what have you. The market will show a tipping point for any of those in the near future. Even the Saudis are thinking new energy. Trouble is, collectivist politicians are ideologically blind on both eyes because they actually want to get rid of the cars altogether in the growing cities.

    I myself don’t panic. I try to get those 200,000 km on my RS and then we face the future deeply relaxed 😎



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    #179521

    bobcat
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    @Frenk, I am interested in what other people’s views and opinions are. From what I see and read “we the public” can see what is being proposed albeit in the short turn is not workable. I not saying in the future the politicians will make all things electric work, but that itself will have major consequences. I fear for my grandchildren and their children with all that’s happened in the world 😿



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    #179531

    frenk
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    @bobcat: I seem to have developed a more fatalistic stance towards the future of our grandchildren. My grandfather participated in world war 1. My parents suffered famine and unemployment in world war 2. Did they complain? No. Did they fear for their grandchildren? I doubt it.

    The only thing I fear is that idiocracy and emotional reasoning is taking the lead in politics, amplified by social media. It’s time for natural scientists and engineers to speak up and return to a public debate on common sense. Climate change is real – the end of the world is not. Just crying wolf does not help. Our children have to roll up their sleeves and tackle the challenge. I believe they can do it because they were educated by us, innit 😉



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    #179533

    Pauly Paul
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    From the moment the forbidden fruit was eaten we as a race we’re doomed , us humans have a self destruct button  & evolution has it’s way???? and it will , it will be our down fall that some numpty sitting behind a desk with his finger on the button will press it and obliterated the human race , then it will be machines ruling our planet , oh hang on a minute aren’t they already.

    #179541

    bobcat
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    So why is there a gas shortage, why have prices increased so suddenly, and how has the food industry been impacted? This is what you need to know.
     

    https://www.nationalworld.com/news/politics/why-are-gas-prices-rising-in-the-uk-co2-shortage-explained-and-how-it-could-impact-food-supplies-3388501



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    #179547

    white-rs2
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    A very Americanised rant from I think a Yorkshire man, but I agree with you totally.

    Gas (not petrol but heating gas) has increased by 324% on the wholesale price the BBC announced this am



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    #179550

    DaveRS3
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    United Kingdom

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    I think there’s more to the food shortage than they are saying bobcat.

    Huge number of farmers in america reporting that they are being paid to destroy their crops and threatened with the removal of tax subsidies if they don’t.

    Bullshit fact checkers are saying its false……..

    #179551

    coastliner
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    We the consumers are being squeezed from all side’s. I can see inflation going above 4% by the end of 2021 followed by interest rates rising next year which will impact again on everyone. The Government will use all manner of reasons COVID, Brexit shortage of LGV drivers. Everything will be more expensive, will be interesting to see how it all pans out.



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