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  • #108171

    tonys
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    Which stage1 to choose Litchfield 385(BHP) or FPM375(PS)? Not too concerned about base warranty.

    #108176

    71-bda
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    or the Dreamscience Imap?



    No nothing.

    No Mods. No rockers. Just a chunky knob, thats now been replaced by an RS knob innit.

    No tackiness.

    Std as Ford intended, but with a space saver wheel and jack and nuts and wheel brace. oh.. and flaps, a man has got to have flaps.

    Innit?

     

    #108183

    tonys
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    Thanks bda. Its striking the right balance between obtaining a noticeable power gain without compromising durability/reliability I suppose.

    #108184

    brembo
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    @tonys

    Afternoon mate!! If your not too bothered about the warranty are you planning changing any other components as well as getting a map?? Or just a map??

    Cheers, Marc.



    MY/17, F/White, Forged Black Wheels, Recaro Shell Seats, Diamas SiRamik Glasscoat, H&R Anti-Roll Bars/15mm Spacers, EBC Turbo Brake Discs all round/Yellowstuff Brake Pads, Mountune Air Intake/Recirc Valve/SSC/Blue Turbo Hose Kit and Hard Pipe/Uprated Springs/Short Shifter/Rear Motor Mount/Crank Breather Plate, ETS Intercooler, Milltek 100 Cell Cat, Remus Wolf Inside Exhaust, Litchfield Stage 2 map via Cobb Accessport V3, DSC unit.

    #108193

    s66anb
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    Litchfield stage 1 has achieved just under 400bhp at dyno days in Scotland. Both results were from different cars. Also with going Litchfield you’ll use a cobb accessport so have the option to pick and choose different maps and upload them as and when you please

    #108208

    tonys
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    @brembo – Hi. If upgraded hardware is recommended by Litchfield then I would request they install it prior to remap. I suspect a similar hardware upgrade to that adopted for the FPM375 would also be used by Litchfield, but I’m no expert.

    #108212

    s66anb
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    Litchfields stage 1 map can be run on a completely standard car and still achieve close to 400bhp. Obviously modifications will help.

    The first car running Litchfield only had an AS induction kit and made 395bhp and 400lbft torque

    The other car only had a catback exhaust and made 399bhp and 364lbft torque

     

    Litchfield stage 1 is defo bang for buck when it comes to performance. I’ve heard a few owners now saying if they knew they could have achieved that kinda power they wouldn’t have bothered with spending the cash on all the other hardware for running stage 2

    #108213

    s66anb
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    Also at both these dyno days Litchfield was the most impressive map which encouraged other owners to purchase a map with them. I’m still planning on getting a map with them but I still need to buy an intercooler and I’ll be going straight to stage 2. I already run Adam tunes stage 1 map on my car but want to change

    #108228

    tonys
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    @s66anb – Thanks for the info. I’ll contact Litchfield next week to discuss options.

    #108235

    brembo
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    @tonys

    I’ve just read your message and will send a decent reply tomorrow mate!! I’m not currently compesmentus, (I know that’s spelt wrong) haha…. good night!! ???

    Cheers, Marc.



    MY/17, F/White, Forged Black Wheels, Recaro Shell Seats, Diamas SiRamik Glasscoat, H&R Anti-Roll Bars/15mm Spacers, EBC Turbo Brake Discs all round/Yellowstuff Brake Pads, Mountune Air Intake/Recirc Valve/SSC/Blue Turbo Hose Kit and Hard Pipe/Uprated Springs/Short Shifter/Rear Motor Mount/Crank Breather Plate, ETS Intercooler, Milltek 100 Cell Cat, Remus Wolf Inside Exhaust, Litchfield Stage 2 map via Cobb Accessport V3, DSC unit.

    #108292

    brembo
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    @tonys

    Evening mate!! If I was you I’d go for Litchfield. I can’t comment on their Stage 1 map coz I never had it, I went straight to their Stage 2 map as I had already fitted upgraded parts to my RS!! I did get the Remus Cat-back and Milltek 100 Cell Cat from Litchfield, also from what I have heard from other owners the Stage 1 is GOOD!! I don’t think you need to change any parts but I would advise upgrading your Air Intake regardless, in fact I’d advise upgrading your Air Intake even if you don’t have a map!! Mainly coz you want as much air getting sucked into your engine as freely as possible!! Plus it sounds SOOOO much better mate!! ??. I would also advise you replace your Recirculating Valve as the OEM one is PISH!!, a pet hate of mine and I think every RS owner should change this part!! ALSO…. I found Litchfield an absolute joy to talk to whether it be on the phone or via text message. I live in the highlands of Scotland so obviously can’t take a run down there, and I spend half my life Offshore, so comms can be restricted but they were quick to reply to anything I asked and I basically don’t have a single negative thing to say about them!! PLUS…. you can data-log with the COBB handset and send that data to Litchfield who will look at it and make changes free of charge for the first 12 months!! For me it’s a NO-BRAINER mate!! Hope that helps??

    Cheers, Marc.



    MY/17, F/White, Forged Black Wheels, Recaro Shell Seats, Diamas SiRamik Glasscoat, H&R Anti-Roll Bars/15mm Spacers, EBC Turbo Brake Discs all round/Yellowstuff Brake Pads, Mountune Air Intake/Recirc Valve/SSC/Blue Turbo Hose Kit and Hard Pipe/Uprated Springs/Short Shifter/Rear Motor Mount/Crank Breather Plate, ETS Intercooler, Milltek 100 Cell Cat, Remus Wolf Inside Exhaust, Litchfield Stage 2 map via Cobb Accessport V3, DSC unit.

    #108299

    tonys
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    @brembo – Glad to see you’re back in the land of the living lol. Many thanks for your detailed and valued reply. I will install an upgraded high flow air intake kit,  recirc. and SSC if I go for Litchfield stage 1. Season’s greetings.

    #108300

    brembo
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    @tonys

    Haha!! Seasons greetings to you too mate!! Yeah, back in the land of the living, finally, it’s taken all bloody day, it doesn’t get any easier as you get older that’s for sure!! Lol!!

    I would change your Air Intake and Recirc Valve and fit an SSC regardless of what you decide to do mate!! Your engine will thank you for it and you don’t need any kinda map or anything to do these mods!! Then you should give Litchfield a phone and order a COBB Handset with the Stage 1 map on it, personally I’d go Stage 2 but I don’t know your circumstances, ie….. what do you want from the car, how much do you have to spend on the car, are you fussed about fuel consumption etc etc… you’d need an Intercooler and hi-flow cat for sure and a Cat-back Exhaust for a PROPER note… and I fit all this stuff myself, if you don’t you’ll need to pay someone to do it??

    Cheers, Marc.



    MY/17, F/White, Forged Black Wheels, Recaro Shell Seats, Diamas SiRamik Glasscoat, H&R Anti-Roll Bars/15mm Spacers, EBC Turbo Brake Discs all round/Yellowstuff Brake Pads, Mountune Air Intake/Recirc Valve/SSC/Blue Turbo Hose Kit and Hard Pipe/Uprated Springs/Short Shifter/Rear Motor Mount/Crank Breather Plate, ETS Intercooler, Milltek 100 Cell Cat, Remus Wolf Inside Exhaust, Litchfield Stage 2 map via Cobb Accessport V3, DSC unit.

    #108766

    mky-77
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    Brembo there is a cobb unit on eBay with the stage 1 map for £400 whats your view on that?any negatives

    #108771

    brembo
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    @mky-77

    Is it a COBB Accessport V2 or V3?? And who’s Stage 1 map is it that’s on it??

    Cheers, Marc.



    MY/17, F/White, Forged Black Wheels, Recaro Shell Seats, Diamas SiRamik Glasscoat, H&R Anti-Roll Bars/15mm Spacers, EBC Turbo Brake Discs all round/Yellowstuff Brake Pads, Mountune Air Intake/Recirc Valve/SSC/Blue Turbo Hose Kit and Hard Pipe/Uprated Springs/Short Shifter/Rear Motor Mount/Crank Breather Plate, ETS Intercooler, Milltek 100 Cell Cat, Remus Wolf Inside Exhaust, Litchfield Stage 2 map via Cobb Accessport V3, DSC unit.

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